Champions League finalists Liverpool and Tottenham now worlds apart

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Good read on the BBC site Champions League finalists Liverpool and Tottenham now worlds apart

It really is mind blowing how we were better than Liverpool just 2-3 years ago and the direction both clubs have taken. Liverpool have spent a Net sum less than or equal to us, and though that doesn’t tell the whole story it does show how mismanaged we have been to find ourselves 31 points behind after 21 games.

Liverpool used their CL final loss in 2017 as a springboard and showed the world they meant business by signing Fabinho, Shaqiri and Alisson that summer, while we did spend money I believe it was more stop gap or players we didn’t even know how to properly use, instead of signing players that fit a well defined system.

With some smart management and transfers can we bridge the gap or are we just looking at a generational team that will be impossible to catch even with smart transfers?
 
This is more of a management problem (Levy/ENIC), but, I think that just like Liverpool, we're also 3-4 players away from competing and winning against the very best.
 
Yes, it’s depressing but we were probably punching above our weight to get to the CL final.
Now, I believe that we are starting again with some good prospects in the team and if Jose can get us to a final (FA Cup, maybe?) I would happily put some dosh on us winning it, Jose knows about these things.
 
But their team was good enough to win the champions league and finish with 99 points in the league. It’s not like they were in the verge of greatness this summer. They are already there
Yeah, massive difference between not spending once you got a complete team who just won the CL & got a massive amount of pts in the league. Also they still spend out 100m more on wages last year as per usual which is as important as spending on new players.
Where as we did need new players & weren't complete despite what some kept saying about who do you drop etc. They obviously been proving wrong by our decline in quality on the pitch.
They needed a new keeper & CB & broke world records (I think) on them. A comparison would have been if they didn't spend when they needed those 2 new players. They wouldn't be as good now if they hadn't of got the keeper & VVD in.
Where as are owners wouldn't have been as supportive in backing the manager.
If Liverpool paid a 100m less per year in wages, think of how many top players they lose or never get.
Also very smart of klopp that he signed someone straight away in January. Keeping things fresh. He didnt do the full season without a signing.
 
we outplayed them at Anfield last season, Sissoko has the chance to win it and butchered it, then Hugo and Toby hand them an injury time winner.

We gifted them a first minute penalty in European Cup Final. They were shit on the night, but we were so overawed by the occasion and fielding injured players, we couldn’t lay a glove on them.

We led them at Anfield back in October, they might have been on top but Son hit the woodwork (with an admittedly difficult chance) which would have put us 0-2 up early in 2nd half.

Should have won it yesterday with second half chances.

I’m sick of those fuckers. We’ve beaten them 1 in last 17, which is pathetic. Even when we were better than them for 4-5 seasons prior to last season, we still never beat them.

The condescending words of that gimp Klopp have really pissed me off.

Oh yeah and when we pulled it back to 1-2 at Wembley against them last season, we had a. Injury time penalty that should have awarded for a foul on Son, not given.
 
They sold a midfield player who was past his sell by date for 145m they then used that money to buy proven quality players ... Poch kept Eriksen and we bought nobody ....

As already pointed out Liverpool spent ZERO this summer so by the logic off all the Levy's fault crowd Liverpool are finished next year, is that right?
 
The thing is, they deserved to be in the CL final last season, we were miles behind the genuine elite teams in Europe and still are, goes without saying.

On a normal day teams like Barcelona, PSG and Bayern would absolutely murder us and it remains to be seems whether we can beat RB Leipzig.. If anyone still thinks that will be easy :mourcheeks:
 
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But their team was good enough to win the champions league and finish with 99 points in the league. It’s not like they were in the verge of greatness this summer. They are already there

The incremental difference should still be the same one would assume?
 
"If you want the biggest and best train set down your road ,you have to go out and buy it,no one is going to give it to you" - jimmy Greaves said this about owning and being a successful a football club in the latter 90's.
And he is right, even more so nowadays
 
"If you want the biggest and best train set down your road ,you have to go out and buy it,no one is going to give it to you" - jimmy Greaves said this about owning and being a successful a football club in the latter 90's.
And he is right, even more so nowadays

.....And usually the richest kids have the best train set.
 
Good read on the BBC site Champions League finalists Liverpool and Tottenham now worlds apart

It really is mind blowing how we were better than Liverpool just 2-3 years ago and the direction both clubs have taken. Liverpool have spent a Net sum less than or equal to us, and though that doesn’t tell the whole story it does show how mismanaged we have been to find ourselves 31 points behind after 21 games.

Liverpool used their CL final loss in 2017 as a springboard and showed the world they meant business by signing Fabinho, Shaqiri and Alisson that summer, while we did spend money I believe it was more stop gap or players we didn’t even know how to properly use, instead of signing players that fit a well defined system.

With some smart management and transfers can we bridge the gap or are we just looking at a generational team that will be impossible to catch even with smart transfers?
There must be something connecting this miss management?
 
The thing is, they deserved to be in the CL final last season, we were miles behind the genuine elite teams in Europe and still are, goes without saying.

On a normal day teams like Barcelona, PSG and Bayern would absolutely murder us and it remains to be seems whether we can beat RB Leipzig.. If anyone still thinks that will be easy :mourcheeks:
Didn't we beat the "best team in Europe" last season in the quarter-finals though? We're behind the elite, but we can beat the elite as well.
 
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