Let's see what they do Wednesday.
Good luck trying to eject anyone saying 'Yid'.
Wankers.
Good luck trying to eject anyone saying 'Yid'.
Wankers.
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So anyone seen this picture doing the rounds?
A Spurs fan found it from years ago. Just another ridiculous example of hypocrisy from a ridiculous man.
baddiel also claims to be a 10 out of 10 atheist as well!!!... the mans a cuntSo anyone seen this picture doing the rounds?
A Spurs fan found it from years ago. Just another ridiculous example of hypocrisy from a ridiculous man.
I think the police will be going all out war on Yid on Wednesday. And probably ignoring anything coming out of the WH fans.
and do what? You're assuming every 1882er agrees with the use of "yid".
1882 should be used as a platform for this debate. It's no why it was created.
Baddiel has already shown that he is not open to debate. At a stand up show he will be the one with the microphone and heckling is not really welcomed. 1882 would only destroy their image doing that, not wise at all imo.
because i was deadly serious you cretin.
Just seen that the 3 guys who were arrested have been prosecuted.
Fuck sake
Fuck sake
Don't think they've been prosecuted, just charged.
Load of crappy law jargon; I think 'charged' is when there's enough evidence to present a case against them, so this will go to court. When the judge has come to a decision, if they're guilty they'll be prosecuted/convicted. Not 100% but think that's it.
It's a 'trial case', so no precedent has been set before and it's unchartered territory. The outcome will likely define what happens with all 'yid' chanting in future.
Ah yes that I was trying to work out if they had been through the courts already. I'm hoping the judge sees sense and they get off but given that it's football-related I fear they don't stand a chance. Football fans have to be one of the largest group victims of prejudice in the country
Also we live in a country which is unable to separate the context from the words and behaves hypocritically all the time. Say what you like about America but no free speech means no real freedom. In the uk our law states that a word can be offensive not if it is meant to be offensive or not but if it's taken as offensive, so I theory you say the word dick or fanny, i find it 'deeply offensive' and report you. I am always amazed that under the last few governments who have introduced such horrible laws relating to our freedoms that we accept this offence culture and abandon the concept of free speech, rant over.
Also the fact that these three lads are now going to be virtually unemployable from now on makes it all the more sadder...
Don't give in lads. I'm not stopping.
Don't give in lads. I'm not stopping.
I hope David baddiel is happy with himself, chav cunt.
No doubt the smug little smile on his cunty little face just got that much smuggier!
...actually, I find him offensive!
Is anyone gonna arrest and charge him with the disgust and offence caused to me, just by virtue of him 'being'???
It's very unlikely a judge interpreting the law will side with our viewpoint (i.e. we're only using a racist chant because their racist chant is worse). A judge will have a statute book to say that racism is racism. All now sub-judice so I'll have to be careful with what I say
Sincerely hope our three fans have a decent brief and the outcome is a good one. Is there a fighting fund set up by the Trust? Happy to put in a few quid.
They're being charged under 'Section Five' which is the Public Order Act, the one the police like to wave in everyone's face if someone starts getting a bit leary.
From the UK Legislation website:
I'd argue that point (a) is relevant, those charged had no reason to believe that there was anybody within hearing who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm, or distress. Also worth trying (c) because it could be seen as 'reasonable' due to its common usage for the past 30 years in large groups of people.UK Legislation said:
I don't study criminal law though, I do contract stuff. @
Smoked Salmon
don't you deal with some of this shit sometimes?
I don't but I did review the legislation and it has wider scope. I did a post on this to Eperons in the thread about Ajax's Arab surfer flag. On my phone at the moment though so can't link to it.They're being charged under 'Section Five' which is the Public Order Act, the one the police like to wave in everyone's face if someone starts getting a bit leary.
From the UK Legislation website:
I'd argue that point (a) is relevant, those charged had no reason to believe that there was anybody within hearing who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm, or distress. Also worth trying (c) because it could be seen as 'reasonable' due to its common usage for the past 30 years in large groups of people.
I don't study criminal law though, I do contract stuff. @
That said, the Act only requires the there be people in the locality of the chants who may be offended by it for it to be an offence. It's quite broad.
So that's two protests now needed! StubHub and Yids.
What chants could we sign to really make a point to the police who will obviously be in block 35 for Dnipro, without saying anything which could get anyone in trouble?
I'm a fan of "we're not the racists, we're proud to be Yids", to the same generic tune as every other song at the moment. Surely, surely you couldn't be arrested for using Yid in that context? SURELY?
"We're proud to be Jews, we're proud to be Jews, you stupid bastards, you ain't got a clue"
What chants could we sign to really make a point to the police who will obviously be in block 35 for Dnipro, without saying anything which could get anyone in trouble?
I'm a fan of "we're not the racists, we're proud to be Yids", to the same generic tune as every other song at the moment. Surely, surely you couldn't be arrested for using Yid in that context? SURELY?
"We're proud to be Jews, we're proud to be Jews, you stupid bastards, you ain't got a clue"