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Seriously?

A £55m inpact sub? For that money, I want him playing every week.

He's been here for six months so fitness should not be an issue.

.....But it IS none-the-less(*).

We've had this debate previously..... Pricetag is meaningless during the 90mins.

He can't hack it.... Impact sub until he can.

(*No amount of rhetoric about his pricetag will change this.)
 
I might wheel out my nan for the next game. Fucking disgusting what levy has reduced this club to. Stick the stadium up ur arse. Take your profit AND FUCK OFF.

My only criticism of Mourinho is that he knew, everyone else knows, exactly what levys like and how he runs the club, so why fucking join? It's a lost fucking cause.

Levy wants to be the big manx let him be the big man and "coach" the players
 
If he has been fit for those 6 months then yes. But he’s had constant injuries. Every week he misses training due to injury he loses a week of fitness.

No excuses. If he can't get fit and play then he has no place at this club.

He joined us in July last year. With the fitness/diet/support facilities we have then there's no excuse.
 
Why do you guys think levy the issue?

Mourinho has always worked with talented players who knows how to play, winners like ramos and Ronaldo, don't count the Portuguese league because avb wins it too.

At Chelsea he had proper leaders.

Mourinho probably asking for big names on big wages. Levy made spurs capable of growing.

Only thing he did was to have mourinho here, he spared no shit to poch who wanted to compete but didn't have a plan b. Levy contented to be in top 4 that's all he need, it was poch who wabted out and gave away some good players
 
World record profit making club playing what? 5 straight CL campaigns? hasn’t got a striker on their books capable of standing in for Harry Kane is embarrassing to a level we deserve all the stick and criticism from media we currently get....
It’s hard to argue that everything thrown at us recently isn’t deserved....I mean how do we stand there and even try and justify it?
 
I've seen a Winks/Sissoko or Winks/Dier MF perform far better than our MF did today. So no, it's not the fact you claim it to be, Blakey.

(I read the whole convo; your go-to stance is at the route of your argument as always.)



Meh, starting Ndombele was a mistake... I understand the motivation ("what if this is the game"); but he was a ghost again for much of the first half. It's not far off playing Berbatov at CM FFS.

Predictably, he starts to look fruitful as legs begin to tire and the oppo press ceases..... Impact sub.

He was a ghost first half? Despite nobody (ahead of the Defence ) receiving or passing the ball more than him, andseeing it and passing three times what Lo Celso did?

maybe you should watch it again? But without bias this time.
 
There has to be a system that allows performance to facilitate a passing game. To pass, first, you have to have possession of the ball. We are set up in a low-block, to be without the ball.
But under Poch that didn’t count for you.
It was Levy and the players and fatigue and injuries
 
.....But it IS none-the-less(*).

We've had this debate previously..... Pricetag is meaningless during the 90mins.

He can't hack it.... Impact sub until he can.

(*No amount of rhetoric about his pricetag will change this.)
Yep. You were wrong then, and you're wrong now.

Just look at the words "£55m for an impact sub".

Makes you feel kind of queasy?
 
Ok, just making sure you're holding the owners accountable mate, that's all. Because I am seeing people saying how shit Mourinho is but then also defending our owners.

It's ok to think Mourinho is past it and a dinosaur (I don't agree because I think the problem is our transfer strategy, not the managers, but that's besides the point) but for people to say "Mourinho is shit" but then also defend our owners, to me it just seems like a very strange position to have considering they are the ones who hired the manager but yet they are receiving no criticism for his appointment?

I think this appointment will be the first time we see the owners come under pressure if it fails because both sides will be pointing fingers at the owners, the only ones who won't be are the ones who care more about the owners than they do the football club imo.
It's pointless to outright scream at Levy about appointing Jose (and I as you know haven't liked this appointment since the day it was announced). The reason why is because it's still down to whoever the manager is, everything we do on the pitch is the responsibility of the Manager, EVERYTHING. YOU and many others thought the decision was an utterly brilliant one and agreed on the decision because he's a "winner".

The thing is a decision was made and I'm certain it was taken with the best interests of the club at heart, you can't disagree with that because you thought it was a totally fantastic decision for the club. Levy is there to make decisions and he's not afraid of making them and he made one.

I think this decision has taken us back years however. Whilst I thought it was a mistake to let Poch go, I think the even bigger mistake is to rip up a philosophy of play that had given us a brand off football that enabled us to play at the top tier of the game for the first time in 60yrs! Had we appointed a manager that also played with this philosophy then there is a good chance we would be competing far better than we are now (I don't think we are competing, we are getting outplayed every game now, even those we have won). An example of what I mean is Leipzig, who replaced Ralph H with Naglesmann. This is joined up recruitment. I can't get my head around why we've done a 180-degree switch on how we play, made all the more absurd when every serious team in the world is playing that brand of (or a version of it) that football right now.
 
I think José will show his true colours as soon as top four is out of sight, he is already slowly getting there.
I don't think so. If he f*cks this he will never work in Europe again. He is on 2m if we get top 4

As for today, Gio felt like he had to do too much imo, Winks and NDombele were shocking.

Dier should have played. Words I never thought I'd say.
 
He was a ghost first half? Despite nobody (ahead of the Defence ) receiving or passing the ball more than him, andseeing it and passing three times what Lo Celso did?

maybe you should watch it again? But without bias this time.

I'm not about merely counting passes(*)...

GLC wasn't great today; but that doesn't mean Ndombele played well.

(*By your metric Toby is a better DLP than TN anyway.)
 
It's pointless to outright scream at Levy about appointing Jose (and I as you know haven't liked this appointment since the day it was announced). The reason why is because it's still down to whoever the manager is, everything we do on the pitch is the responsibility of the Manager, EVERYTHING. YOU and many others thought the decision was an utterly brilliant one and agreed on the decision because he's a "winner".

The thing is a decision was made and I'm certain it was taken with the best interests of the club at heart, you can't disagree with that because you thought it was a totally fantastic decision for the club. Levy is there to make decisions and he's not afraid of making them and he made one.

I think this decision has taken us back years however. Whilst I thought it was a mistake to let Poch go, I think the even bigger mistake is to rip up a philosophy of play that had given us a brand off football that enabled us to play at the top tier of the game for the first time in 60yrs! Had we appointed a manager that also played with this philosophy then there is a good chance we would be competing far better than we are now (I don't think we are competing, we are getting outplayed every game now, even those we have won). An example of what I mean is Leipzig, who replaced Ralph H with Naglesmann. This is joined up recruitment. I can't get my head around why we've done a 180-degree switch on how we play, made all the more absurd when every serious team in the world is playing that brand of (or a version of it) that football right now.

Not sure why you are surprised. We went from Redknapp to AVB, two managers who couldn’t be more different. I’d much rather Levy appointed a DOF and we got a Nagglesman type manager long term but it is what it is.
 
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