I think the Brits are trying to Hong Kong it ala 99 years.
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For the record, I had no problem whatsoever with Skipp coming on and agree that he made a decent impact
To beat a proper DM out of him?
No it means the sad cunts on here who never post when we win but can't wait to get on and slam the team when we lose (even in a dead rubber) - if you don't know that where have you been?
Just look at yourself 5-0 win nothing much to say - 1-3 defeat and you're on fire - that's all a bit sad
We lumped it to him countless times and I'm not sure he won a single aerial duel.
I'll limit my thoughts to just the non-normal players since the likes of Rose, Eriksen and Dier were complete shit.
The good:
1. Sessegnon player very well. Impressed with his defensive contribution and something that really strikes me about his game is he is so smart positionally going forward. Always opening up space with his movements, very impressive.
2. Foyth. Thought the defense as a whole was poor, but Foyth was the one exception. Very calm on the ball and didn't have any of his mind numbing mistakes. I know it's been said before but he would be very interesting as a DM.
3. Skipp, in his short cameo, was very dynamic. I'm not sure he's good enough to start for us yet but I'm at least intrigued. Maybe against Norwich in a couple weeks?
The bad:
1. KWP just isn't good enough. He's a great dribbler and can work out of tricky situations but it seems he's constantly caught out of position and giving up too much space (yes, some of this is on the midfield not tracking back enough). He needs a loan to actually get minutes (and probably find his real level because I don't think it is with us).
2. Lo Celso. Maybe bad is harsh but he looked off the pace. I have been impressed by him in the past so maybe this is just a product of him not getting games recently.
3. Poor game from Lucas. Was bad in the air and lost almost every single one of the many balls we sent his way. For everything good I said about Sess' positioning, I would say the opposite about Lucas... he just doesn't seem to know how to create areas to run in.
Nothing too seriously negative though aside from KWP I would take from this game. Hopefully it just gives Jose more reason to look at Sess, Foyth and Skipp.
The good:
1. Sessegnon player very well. Impressed with his defensive contribution and something that really strikes me about his game is he is so smart positionally going forward. Always opening up space with his movements, very impressive.
2. Foyth. Thought the defense as a whole was poor, but Foyth was the one exception. Very calm on the ball and didn't have any of his mind numbing mistakes. I know it's been said before but he would be very interesting as a DM.
3. Skipp, in his short cameo, was very dynamic. I'm not sure he's good enough to start for us yet but I'm at least intrigued. Maybe against Norwich in a couple weeks?
The bad:
1. KWP just isn't good enough. He's a great dribbler and can work out of tricky situations but it seems he's constantly caught out of position and giving up too much space (yes, some of this is on the midfield not tracking back enough). He needs a loan to actually get minutes (and probably find his real level because I don't think it is with us).
2. Lo Celso. Maybe bad is harsh but he looked off the pace. I have been impressed by him in the past so maybe this is just a product of him not getting games recently.
3. Poor game from Lucas. Was bad in the air and lost almost every single one of the many balls we sent his way. For everything good I said about Sess' positioning, I would say the opposite about Lucas... he just doesn't seem to know how to create areas to run in.
Nothing too seriously negative though aside from KWP I would take from this game. Hopefully it just gives Jose more reason to look at Sess, Foyth and Skipp.
Safe journey back.
Result is meaningless but I think it’s a reality check more than anything of how little quality depth we have. Poch has been overachieving for years
Gillit called his 100% - hope those snakes never play again
Poch lost 2-7 at home with the first eleven, that's a hell of an over achievement - you are one dumb mother, do you ever engage your brain before posting your drivel?
I love it when I hear people say that's Poch over achieved with the players he had. It's almost as if we never had 9 players going into the final and 3rd place game of the World Cup and 11 making it into the knockout rounds. Simply put we had a gem, he couldn't do something with it so onto the next one and rightly so. Sad as he was well loved but facts don't care about feelings and the fact of the matter is we were rock bottom of the form league across all of 2019 domestically despite 2018 having as mentioned 9 players playing a part in the last weekend of the WC.
23 players at his disposal that had played for their country, 26 if you include Dembele up until January as well as Ndombele and Lo Celso this time around. 26 international players yet bottom of the form league. Hardly screams over achievement for the past 12 months does it as you said.
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I expect the opposite he may not want to use them but they can't be replaced.
Wilson Palacious was the sameI really think the DM position is cursed for us.
No seriously I genuinely think there is something supernatural going on here. Sandro, Wanyama, Dier etc. All looked absolutely amazing for 18 months or so and then all of a sudden become league one level players.
I just don’t get it. . .
Also although I agree that Skipp should get a chance over Dier, I just know that Jose won’t do it because he wants a DM in there that can win headers.
Okay, some takaways from the game -
- Sessegnon was FUUUUCKIING AWESOOOMEEE. Did you see his speed? Did you see his positioning? Did you see his awareness for passes. Wonderful!
Aaand thats where positive stuff ends.
- Dier- like mentioned in other thread, he is finished. Not doing anything and in all of the games he has played under Jose we have lost midfield battle. Should be categorized same way as Wanyama going forward.
- KWP - just not good enough in any sense. Not strong enough, not in right places while defending, dribbling under pressure too much, can't put in a good cross. Time to sell him to Newcastle, I doubt that he would either enjoy this less-than-10-games-per-season circus
- really hard to judge Foyth beacuse of those 2 factors - life for CB is hard when CM and fullbacks are not properly helping
- Eriksen and Lo Celso were both totally invisible during the game. Ofc can't do everything on their own, but still. Expected more. Though it is hard to judge Moura - he played totally out of position, he should never be the man who takes down the headers near oppo box.
Guess we learned something about our lads and can move on.
Result was not embarrasing and in the end did not matter anyway. On weekend we should have fresh Aurier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Kane and Alli to be used against Wolves, should be better then!
- Sessegnon was FUUUUCKIING AWESOOOMEEE. Did you see his speed? Did you see his positioning? Did you see his awareness for passes. Wonderful!
Aaand thats where positive stuff ends.
- Dier- like mentioned in other thread, he is finished. Not doing anything and in all of the games he has played under Jose we have lost midfield battle. Should be categorized same way as Wanyama going forward.
- KWP - just not good enough in any sense. Not strong enough, not in right places while defending, dribbling under pressure too much, can't put in a good cross. Time to sell him to Newcastle, I doubt that he would either enjoy this less-than-10-games-per-season circus
- really hard to judge Foyth beacuse of those 2 factors - life for CB is hard when CM and fullbacks are not properly helping
- Eriksen and Lo Celso were both totally invisible during the game. Ofc can't do everything on their own, but still. Expected more. Though it is hard to judge Moura - he played totally out of position, he should never be the man who takes down the headers near oppo box.
Guess we learned something about our lads and can move on.
Result was not embarrasing and in the end did not matter anyway. On weekend we should have fresh Aurier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Kane and Alli to be used against Wolves, should be better then!