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Should THST merely apologise publicly, or mark their new irrelevance by disbanding entirely?

  • Public apology

    Votes: 15 22.4%
  • Disband

    Votes: 28 41.8%
  • Let them eat cheese

    Votes: 24 35.8%

  • Total voters
    67
  • Poll closed .
I hope you e-mail them with your views. I'm sure they would welcome them
As well meaning as they may be, I haven’t the time or inclination to speak with them as I have never felt that they represent my voice or seen them as effective at what they seek to achieve.

Sounds harsh, but from what I’ve seen of them over the years they’re thought of as nothing more than a free steering group for the THFC marketing machine.
 
Regards to the letter itself, firstly, I thought it was incredibly poorly worded and the idea that it was meant to represent me as a fan I found embarrassing.

As to the actual content, it was whingy and irrelevant.... “And [sic] to ask for a full and believable explanation of how this transfer window has played out.”

As Guido 🇺🇦 Guido 🇺🇦 previously posted above, if they want to take issue with the new pricing strategy, keep it on topic and have an actual point, instead of bitching and griping. Why not focus attention on real questions such as:

- Why were so few senior and family tickets allocated?
- How did so much of the “affordable” south stand end up being allocated to 1882?
- With the addition of more than 500,000 saleable tickets over the course of a season, how can they justify such steep price rises?

Whilst I’m sure THFC would counter that last question with “these are different products (old stadium experience vs new)”, our reply should simply be that fans are still fans and we didn’t ask for cheese tunnels or Michelin starred restaurants and shouldn’t be asked to fund those features which are completely unattainable to us.

Further, with a near neutral net spend in player acquisitions since redevelopment began, much of the stadium should already be paid for... along with naming rights, NFL affiliation and seemingly a sponsor for every fixture, fitting and service installed within the stadium, the argument that “this all needs to be paid for” should be practically moot by now.

The commercialisation of every facet of not only the stadium, but the entire surrounding area, through the delivery of the Northumberland Development Project, will eventually lead to huge net gains for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club and, in turn, ENIC. Seeing as we are seemingly being asked to fund all of these additional projects, will ENIC then begin to pass some of this gain back to normal fans through subsidising ticket prices?

...those are some of the things I would like to see the supporters trust start thinking about addressing, instead of pissing and moaning about not having new toys.
Excellent post, mate
 
As well meaning as they may be, I haven’t the time or inclination to speak with them as I have never felt that they represent my voice or seen them as effective at what they seek to achieve.

Sounds harsh, but from what I’ve seen of them over the years they’re thought of as nothing more than a free steering group for the THFC marketing machine.
I take it you voted to disband, big man
 
As well meaning as they may be, I haven’t the time or inclination to speak with them as I have never felt that they represent my voice or seen them as effective at what they seek to achieve.

Sounds harsh, but from what I’ve seen of them over the years they’re thought of as nothing more than a free steering group for the THFC marketing machine.


But you have the time and inclination to moan about them on a forum? That's helpful
 
Didn't the trust just ask for information why no players were signed? A trust is of the highest importance. Look what Brady and co got away with when West Ham didn't have one.
 
Didn't the trust just ask for information why no players were signed? A trust is of the highest importance. Look what Brady and co got away with when West Ham didn't have one.
They have no power, and, it seems, even less intellect. They are an irrelevance and they fucken well overstepped the mark. I was outraged to have those thick cunts representing me in the media. Mortified
 
I think we've flushed one of them out, lads.

Right, my Norwegian friend, which made up position do you have on the THST committee? Do you organise the bring and buy sale?

I've never bothered because of the all crap you receive. And the abuse used to be alot worse back in the day when they never challenged the club on anything.

I think one of the main reason why England is one of the worst countries for vocal support at football games, is that English fans never seem to be able to agree on anything. People who try to get things going usually gets told to sit down and shut up, whether that's in the ground or any organization involving their own club.

Even stuff like "1882"(the fighting cock initiative, not the club's recent one) received loads of negative crap from people who didn't realised what is was about
 
I've never bothered because of the all crap you receive. And the abuse used to be alot worse back in the day when they never challenged the club on anything.

I think one of the main reason why England is one of the worst countries for vocal support at football games, is that English fans never seem to be able to agree on anything. People who try to get things going usually gets told to sit down and shut up, whether that's in the ground or any organization involving their own club.

Even stuff like "1882"(the fighting cock initiative, not the club's recent one) received loads of negative crap from people who didn't realised what is was about
Some truth in that. Though paradoxically I would say that the disorganisation is also one of the plus points of English football. The spontaneity of the atmosphere gives it a different feel to ultras-led atmospheres abroad. Maybe it makes for a worse atmosphere for some games, such as home games when you're expected to win, but also (IMO, and having watched football in various countries) a better atmosphere at others- like last night's. In my view there is something a bit humdrum about singing led by a conductor which doesn't reflect what's going on on the pitch. Not saying ultras culture is always like that, but that's it at its worst (just like a silent Wembley versus Bournemouth is our supporter culture at its worst).

I agree with you about the trust though. Whether right or wrong (and I tend to agree with what Guido 🇺🇦 Guido 🇺🇦 wrote) at least they are doing something and putting hard work into it.
 
The arguments in favour of THST seem to be around the notion that the supporters are voiceless without them. How absurd. Most football fans participate with social media channels, can vote with their feet when it comes to attendance, and can decide to stop buying merchandise.

Football clubs are companies doing a line in brand loyalty, whether you like that statement or not. THST dropped the ball. It is an organisation from another age. Their hatred of Levy has shown them for what they are: Enemies of Tottenham Hotspur

Enemies of Tottenham Hotspur?

My god, it's probably best I say nothing about that part of the post.

Do you really think the club listen to complaints on Twitter? If they did then we would have signed players in the transfer window with the club spending stupid money in the process.

Voting with their feet? Shall we all bugger off to support another club then?
 
The Trust is fine. If you want to change how the Trust is run, join and try to make changes. Or just ignore them, which is what many supporters do - they don't act like they speak for all fans.

It's run by good people with good intentions. Even if I don't agree with their concerns, they have the right to express them, and mostly they are just looking out for the average match going supporter, which is fine by me.

But clearly they should go eat cheese.
 
"If you don't like it then become a member" - no, how about if you don't like the criticsm from fans then next time be more measured and professional and don't come across like the sort of trust I would not want to consider associating myself with.
: ostrich:
 
Enemies of Tottenham Hotspur?

My god, it's probably best I say nothing about that part of the post.

Do you really think the club listen to complaints on Twitter? If they did then we would have signed players in the transfer window with the club spending stupid money in the process.

Voting with their feet? Shall we all bugger off to support another club then?
Social media opinion is as valid as that of THST.
I won't support another club because I suffer from an irrational emotional attachment to Tottenham Hotspur.

I simply say that THST disgrace themselves when they attack Levy with inarticulate zeal and do so in the name of all Spurs supporters. Who the fuck do they think they are?

I applaud Levy for his handling of club affairs despite the potential for emotional mismanagement which rarely ends well at football clubs.
 
The temerity of these cunts.

I express my often fucked-up opinions as an individual. These cunts think their opinions are worthy of the grand title: Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust. Their individual opinion is greater than all of our opinions.

And they use it to hurt the team. Where is the apology?

Paxman , are you going to report the findings of this thread back to your committee?
 
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