This guy is 8 months younger than me, holy shit
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This guy is 8 months younger than me, holy shit
Was just wondering, do you think Cameron Carter-Vickers might end up playing his cards too early, in terms of choosing who he represents. I know it may be a bit presumptuous but surely he would want to represent England over the USA, yet he might make a competitive appearance for the US before he even represents England U21s.
Having said that I don't necessarily think that in five years America will be that far behind England.
Has he already made his choice?
Having said that I don't necessarily think that in five years America will be that far behind England.
Has he already made his choice?
Are they behind England now ?
In the world rankings, no but if the two teams played each other, I think England would still edge it.
Spurs U18s (v Woolwich): Glover, Walkes, Walker-Peters, Amos, Maghoma, Carter-Vickers, Azzaoui, Stylianides, Harrison, Pritchard, Georgiou.
Spurs U18s subs (v Woolwich): Goddard, Edwards, Loft, Voss (GK)
U18s KO: We're underway at Woolwich in the Barclays U18 Premier League.
Spurs U18s subs (v Woolwich): Goddard, Edwards, Loft, Voss (GK)
U18s KO: We're underway at Woolwich in the Barclays U18 Premier League.
U18s: GOAL! Azzaoui nets his first league goal from the edge of the box after a defensive mix-up left keeper stranded. 0-1,
U18s: GOAL! Harrison finds Pritchard with reverse pass, he sends Azzaoui running free to fire home into the bottom corner. 0-2, 65mins
Azzaoui...... the first team needs you!
U18s: We're down to 10 men as Walkes is sent off for a second bookable offence. Midfielder Stylianides drops in at right-back. 0-2, 68mins
Walkes.........the first team doesn't need you!
U18s FT: Woolwich 0-2 Spurs - Azzaoui tap-in ruled out for off-side, Woolwich kept at bay despite red card.
Is he as good as Azza? Oui!
He shouldnt choose who he represents based on whether he will play or how successful they will be to be honest, but most do.
A reason to be cheerful after our tonking:
All of these are fantastic English prospects that have come through the Spurs academy:
Harry Kane
Ryan Mason
Nabil Bentaleb
Josh Onomah
Nathan Oduwa
Conor Ogilvie
Marcus Edwards
Harry Winks
Kyle Walker-Peters
Cameron Cater-Vickers
Tom Carroll
Alex Pritchard
All of these are fantastic English prospects that have come through the Spurs academy:
Harry Kane
Ryan Mason
Nabil Bentaleb
Josh Onomah
Nathan Oduwa
Conor Ogilvie
Marcus Edwards
Harry Winks
Kyle Walker-Peters
Cameron Cater-Vickers
Tom Carroll
Alex Pritchard
Not to mention the American 
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I'm sure this will be knocked because of the source but I thought it was a quite insightful take on youth football with some good insight and examples into Spurs youth system and players.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...y-just-need-to-be-given-a-chance-9802904.html
Tim Sherwood: People knock young English footballers, but the Under-21s showed there’s talent here. They just need to be given a chance
Watching the England Under-21s beat their Croatian counterparts in both legs of their European Championship finals play-off, it was clear that technically and tactically, the English boys were superior.
Some people seem to be in denial about it but having worked in development I have always said that we have the players. We just need to have the confidence to play them.
You can see the English inferiority complex everywhere. Even the commentators kept talking up Alen Halilovic, the Croatian teenager who had joined up from the seniors to play the second leg. Our midfielders had much more of an influence on the game.
It is fashionable to knock young English players. Yet that is the fifth Under-21s European Championship on the spin that England have qualified for and while each one was achieved with a different group of players, great credit must go to Gareth Southgate. Look at some of the big teams that did not make it this time, including Spain, France and the Netherlands
.
Over the course of qualification, Harry Kane and Saido Berahino have emerged as two strikers of real potential who complement each other well. I like the look of Liam Moore, and it is no coincidence that he is playing regularly in the Premier League with Leicester City. Luke Shaw was excellent, having come on considerably in the last 12 months.
What does the Under-21s’ qualification teach us as we go back to the Premier League again? That good young English academy footballers can develop into top players if they are given a fair chance in the senior team and have a little faith shown in them.
Tom Carroll, who played both legs of the Under-21s play-off, is a case in point. He was one of the boys who was part of my development squad at Spurs when I was in charge of the young lads at the club. Technically he is very gifted. Physically, as a teenager, he was smaller than a lot of his age group, but in the long term we always knew it would be his ability with the ball that would make him a successful professional.
He has always been referred to as “little Tommy Carroll”, but his physique has never held him back. It was an easy excuse not to play him.
When you set up an academy youth team, you can look at it two ways. One option is to try to win every game. In which case you might pick a boy who is more effective at that point in time than a player like Carroll. That would usually be a bigger, stronger player, one capable of getting around the pitch and imposing himself. Or alternatively you could take the gifted player like Carroll, tell him not to worry about taking risks and treat the result as of secondary importance.
In junior football, I would always take the latter. The results of youth teams do not matter. They were the last thing I was interested in when I asked my coaches for reports. What mattered was how the boys played: who took risks; who looked technically good. It might sound like stating the obvious but eventually, in elite senior football, it is the team with the most technically-accomplished players who win.
England U21 manager Gareth Southgate has talent at his disposal
Of course, you need a mix of sorts and we produced physical players too. But with players like Tom it was about encouraging them to play the ball and not worrying too much about losing it. I remember one first half when Tom gave the ball away so many times, that we just had to make a joke about it at half-time. We need not have worried. His character came though and he was the best player on the pitch in the second half.
He is a sponge for information. The Under-21s qualifying campaign has given him a stage. On loan at Swansea City he has not played as much as he would like this season but if he gets games he will deliver for them. I am on the same Uefa Pro License course as Swansea manager Garry Monk and we have discussed Tom. With games, Tom will develop into the player everyone thinks he can be.
Currently in the academy at Spurs there is a 15-year-old, Marcus Edwards, who is already playing for England Under-17s. He is the kind of player who, as a coach, makes you look forward to walking out on to that pitch in the morning. Everyone in development football has heard of Marcus. He is a gifted technician with a low centre of gravity, who can pass off either foot or dribble past opponents.
When I was at Spurs, I would persuade anyone and everyone at the training ground to come over to see him train. He is a joy to watch. Again, he is the kind of player who might not always get a game. There might be a bigger boy who could be more effective on that given day, but in time Marcus has the potential to be a great player, a make-the-difference footballer. He can win you a game. These are the kind of talented players that we must not neglect.
What pleases me so much about Gareth’s Under-21s is that they have proven a point to so many people – and I have to say it is largely people coming into the English game from overseas – who have a knee-jerk reaction to young English players. They instinctively think they are old school kick-and-rush. Yet, I watched Carroll, Will Hughes and Jake Forster-Caskey in midfield on Tuesday night and Croatia, a good technical side, just could not get near them.
It is taking longer for our young payers to get to the position where they can break into a top professional side. Carroll, for instance, is 22 already. That is why they need their clubs to give them a pathway to the first team. They need to know that if they develop, usually through going on loan, then a chance will be given to them. Otherwise they become frustrated.
After the World Cup finals, I wrote in this column that I believed England have the making of a good young team. The results over this last international break tell a story: two wins for the seniors and the Under-21s; two wins out of three for the Under-20s; three wins for the Under-19s. The players are there. It is up to the English game now to nurture them properly.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...y-just-need-to-be-given-a-chance-9802904.html
Tim Sherwood: People knock young English footballers, but the Under-21s showed there’s talent here. They just need to be given a chance
Watching the England Under-21s beat their Croatian counterparts in both legs of their European Championship finals play-off, it was clear that technically and tactically, the English boys were superior.
Some people seem to be in denial about it but having worked in development I have always said that we have the players. We just need to have the confidence to play them.
You can see the English inferiority complex everywhere. Even the commentators kept talking up Alen Halilovic, the Croatian teenager who had joined up from the seniors to play the second leg. Our midfielders had much more of an influence on the game.
It is fashionable to knock young English players. Yet that is the fifth Under-21s European Championship on the spin that England have qualified for and while each one was achieved with a different group of players, great credit must go to Gareth Southgate. Look at some of the big teams that did not make it this time, including Spain, France and the Netherlands
.
Over the course of qualification, Harry Kane and Saido Berahino have emerged as two strikers of real potential who complement each other well. I like the look of Liam Moore, and it is no coincidence that he is playing regularly in the Premier League with Leicester City. Luke Shaw was excellent, having come on considerably in the last 12 months.
What does the Under-21s’ qualification teach us as we go back to the Premier League again? That good young English academy footballers can develop into top players if they are given a fair chance in the senior team and have a little faith shown in them.
Tom Carroll, who played both legs of the Under-21s play-off, is a case in point. He was one of the boys who was part of my development squad at Spurs when I was in charge of the young lads at the club. Technically he is very gifted. Physically, as a teenager, he was smaller than a lot of his age group, but in the long term we always knew it would be his ability with the ball that would make him a successful professional.
He has always been referred to as “little Tommy Carroll”, but his physique has never held him back. It was an easy excuse not to play him.
When you set up an academy youth team, you can look at it two ways. One option is to try to win every game. In which case you might pick a boy who is more effective at that point in time than a player like Carroll. That would usually be a bigger, stronger player, one capable of getting around the pitch and imposing himself. Or alternatively you could take the gifted player like Carroll, tell him not to worry about taking risks and treat the result as of secondary importance.
In junior football, I would always take the latter. The results of youth teams do not matter. They were the last thing I was interested in when I asked my coaches for reports. What mattered was how the boys played: who took risks; who looked technically good. It might sound like stating the obvious but eventually, in elite senior football, it is the team with the most technically-accomplished players who win.
Of course, you need a mix of sorts and we produced physical players too. But with players like Tom it was about encouraging them to play the ball and not worrying too much about losing it. I remember one first half when Tom gave the ball away so many times, that we just had to make a joke about it at half-time. We need not have worried. His character came though and he was the best player on the pitch in the second half.
He is a sponge for information. The Under-21s qualifying campaign has given him a stage. On loan at Swansea City he has not played as much as he would like this season but if he gets games he will deliver for them. I am on the same Uefa Pro License course as Swansea manager Garry Monk and we have discussed Tom. With games, Tom will develop into the player everyone thinks he can be.
Currently in the academy at Spurs there is a 15-year-old, Marcus Edwards, who is already playing for England Under-17s. He is the kind of player who, as a coach, makes you look forward to walking out on to that pitch in the morning. Everyone in development football has heard of Marcus. He is a gifted technician with a low centre of gravity, who can pass off either foot or dribble past opponents.
When I was at Spurs, I would persuade anyone and everyone at the training ground to come over to see him train. He is a joy to watch. Again, he is the kind of player who might not always get a game. There might be a bigger boy who could be more effective on that given day, but in time Marcus has the potential to be a great player, a make-the-difference footballer. He can win you a game. These are the kind of talented players that we must not neglect.
What pleases me so much about Gareth’s Under-21s is that they have proven a point to so many people – and I have to say it is largely people coming into the English game from overseas – who have a knee-jerk reaction to young English players. They instinctively think they are old school kick-and-rush. Yet, I watched Carroll, Will Hughes and Jake Forster-Caskey in midfield on Tuesday night and Croatia, a good technical side, just could not get near them.
It is taking longer for our young payers to get to the position where they can break into a top professional side. Carroll, for instance, is 22 already. That is why they need their clubs to give them a pathway to the first team. They need to know that if they develop, usually through going on loan, then a chance will be given to them. Otherwise they become frustrated.
After the World Cup finals, I wrote in this column that I believed England have the making of a good young team. The results over this last international break tell a story: two wins for the seniors and the Under-21s; two wins out of three for the Under-20s; three wins for the Under-19s. The players are there. It is up to the English game now to nurture them properly.
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