Squad Ratings 2015/16

[therealITK]

Should Monaco and FK Qarabag be differentiated for home and away as well?

edit: and Swansea ranks already up too

 

[Jenny Talia]

Not much love for Chadli. Very unfair ratings for him IMO.

 

[Yossarian]

Not sure that's Vorm.

 

[Don Giovanni]

So much generosity to Townsend and Chadli here.

Never rated them anything beyond 4

 

[Anthony Beale]

So much generosity to Townsend and Chadli here.

Never rated them anything beyond 4

Weird how proud of that you come across.

 

[therealITK]

No idea why Chadli is rated so harsh and there's a love in for the awful Townsend.

 

[Don Giovanni]

Weird how proud of that you come across.

Is impartial the word you are looking for? One can't be proud of his club's mediocricy.

 

[Blanchflower]

As the sample group of games grows to a decent number and you feel player x is being wildly over or underrated then it's probably time to take the blinkers off.....We've got a pretty eclectic group of fans here.

 

[Jenny Talia]

Chadli scores goals and makes goals. It is not a trivial thing in football.

 

[therealITK]

Why are Dier and Davies having ratings of 0.15 and 0.20 for the Liverpool game?

There is not a thread in the sub-forum either.

 

[LLB Part Deux]

OK stats people, I've used the match ratings data to compile a slightly different view of player and manager performance. Essentially, I've taken the player's average performance in a match and compared that to the team performance for the match in order to understand their 'relative' performance.

So, for example, Dier averaged 6.38 for the Man Utd match against a team average of 6.1 and therefore he scored +0.28. The highest performer in that match was Toby with +1.51 over the team average.

Why would you do that?

Wins and losses affect how we rate players. So our best player in a 3-0 loss might average a lower score than the worst player in a 3-0 win just because we tend to downweight player performances for bad results (it's only human).

By looking at the stats based on 'relative' performance we can see who is regularly outperforming their team-mates regardless of the result.

So, what's the outcome?

Here is the average 'relative' ranking of each player who has played 4 games or more this season:

1 Dier +0.76 (av position 4.1)
2 Lloris +0.69 (4.2)
3 Mason +0.67 (5.0)
4 Alli +0.61 (4.9)
5 Rose +0.46 (6.0)
6 Alderweireld +0.39 (5.5)
7 Eriksen +0.34 (7.1)
8 Dembele +0.30 (6.7)
9 Vertonghen +0.22 (6.6)
10 Son +0.09 (8.6)
11 Pochettino +0.07 (6.8)***
12 Walker -0.10 (8.7)
13 Davies -0.11 (9.1)
14 Kane -0.21 (8.9)
15 Lamela -0.28 (8.6)
16 Clinton -0.49 (11.0)
17 Townsend -0.62 (11.3)
18 Chadli -0.77 (11.6)
19 Carroll -0.78 (12.2)
20 Bentaleb -1.07 (11.8)

So, reading across that list - Eric Dier is our best performing player scoring on average 0.76 (out of 10) more than the team average. Across all matches this season he averaged being the 4th highest ranked player on our team (including manager and subs), which goes to show that you don't need to be #1 every game to be our best player.

Hope that's of interest!

 

[LLB Part Deux]

Incidentally, you could form a decent team purely from our top performers which would look like:

[formation=4231, Lloris, Walker, Toby, Verts, Rose, Dier, Mason, Dembele, Alli, Eriksen, Son][/formation]

It's interesting to note that there is no great RM option and our best striker only averages +0.09 ahead of the rest of the team. Mason deserves a place on merit it seems, so in a 'real' team you'd swap out Dembele (+0.30) for Lamela (-0.28) in the right sided slot. Hmmm...

 

[Admin]

Nice!

 

[Belgian Spur]

Can i still add ratings for the scouser game, forgot to add them

Edit: nevermind the Op was clear about it, i was just being lazy

 

[therealITK]

Ratings are again, like they seem to always do, trickle into matches that haven't been played.

 

[Admin]

Ratings are again, like they seem to always do, trickle into matches that haven't been played.

Yea and like I've told you before, I have to manually fix it. It only happens on the day of the next game if people are still submitting results for the previous game.

 

[SchmoodSpur2013]

Incidentally, you could form a decent team purely from our top performers which would look like:

[formation=4231, Lloris, Walker, Toby, Verts, Rose, Dier, Mason, Dembele, Alli, Eriksen, Son][/formation]

It's interesting to note that there is no great RM option and our best striker only averages +0.09 ahead of the rest of the team. Mason deserves a place on merit it seems, so in a 'real' team you'd swap out Dembele (+0.30) for Lamela (-0.28) in the right sided slot. Hmmm...

Lovely post and the previous.

But, why does Alli come up as AM if he's played CM all year?

Or is that your interpretation of the team based on the ratings? That'd make more sense.

 

[LLB Part Deux]

Lovely post and the previous.

But, why does Alli come up as AM if he's played CM all year?

Or is that your interpretation of the team based on the ratings? That'd make more sense.

Yeah, basically just it was just a formation that was built on relative performance rather than any kind of real positional basis. Alli is, I guess, a 'box-to-box' central midfielder so figured I'd put him in a more advanced position in that formation.

I'll update the stats in a few games time, as I'm sure there will have been a few moves in the relative performance list.

 

[pdxspur]

Looks like Onomah's ratings aren't showing up.

 

[oceane67]

Lloris: 6
Vert: 6
Toby: 6
Rose: 6
Walker: 7

Dier: 7
Alli: 5
Moussa: 8

Kane: 100
Eriksen: 6.5
Son: 6