January 2017 Transfer Window Thread

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The Dane said:
Alli was scouted by Pleat, Wanyama and Toby were known quantities. The recruitment in the last couple of windows has been poor
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I really don't think anyone thought Toby would be the best centre back in the league when he signed - no way would we have got him for 8 million if so. Wanyama was slightly more of a slam dunk but 11 million for one of the best is good enough for me.

I can see the frustrations with the recruitment but we look like we're going to be in our second title race in successive years and we have players that fit a lot of different formations and can change a game.
 
Carrots and Peas said:
I really don't think anyone thought Toby would be the best centre back in the league when he signed
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People knew he'd be good though, just not this good.

Knowing a player will be at least good in England is a huge stepping stone to a successful transfer.

Do we know if GKN is good in England? We haven't got a clue. No one does.

Considering that vs the Toby situation, it was a no brainer.
 
Jayc1 said:
People knew he'd be good though, just not this good.

Knowing a player will be at least good in England is a huge stepping stone to a successful transfer.

Do we know if GKN is good in England? We haven't got a clue. No one does.

Considering that vs the Toby situation, it was a no brainer.
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Yeah I agree, you're at an advantage signing Toby and Wanyama because you know they can play in the Premier League at a high level. But the point is we have the best centre back in the league and one of the best CDMs and we got them extremely cheap which is damn good business.
 
The Dane said:
Alli was scouted by Pleat, Wanyama and Toby were known quantities. The recruitment in the last couple of windows has been poor
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Well, we haven't unearthed any hidden gems for peanuts from the regions "Mitchell's" network has been working.
So, we ain't going to miss anything.
Southampton seem to be doing ok without him, Leicester without Walsh.
It's always been like that, the press are just making a deal out of it about us for some reason.
 
In my opinion, scouting is one of the areas of the business that you have to keep absolutely on top of all the time, keep investing in, hire the best people you can get, and keep evolving. When you run a club in the way we do it is particularly important as you have to sign the world class player before he is world class. Not easy. There will always be some players who work out while some turn out to be duds. But I think it is easy to go from a success story to a failure if you don't keep on top of it, if you lose the good talent spotters. It pays for itself if you get it right, many times over.
 
Jayc1 said:
Not hard buys though.

Wanyama - A solid midfielder who had 2-3 years in the prem and who Poch had worked with before coming to end of his contract. Easy choice.

Toby - Great defender at Ajax, moved to Athletico Madrid where he wasn't made used of then went to Southampton and showed how incredible he was. Easy choice.

Alli - Talked up by the BBC 1-2 years before we even bought him as "the next Gerard". He was a regular 2 years before we bought him, at he age of 17-18. There was more talk about Alli than some of us seem to realise - for us he's the "Quality player out of the blue", wasn't really the case. Young English player with 24 goals in 88 games at the age of 18 for £5mil or so? Easy choice.

Son - One of the top scoring midfielders in Germany? Easy choice.

Lamela - One of the best young players in Europe, performing well at a high level and scoring a fair few goals? Expensive, but quality was plain to see.

The players where scouting was actually needed are: Lopez (Unknown), GKN (Unknown), Njie (Unknown, possible fail), Wimmer (Good player), Trippier (Good player), Dier (Very good player). Fazio, Stambouli, Yedlin all big failures.

Our set up is amazing at convincing gems to join us and more importantly to stay, but it isn't the best at finding them. Is it awful? Not at all, but some over-rate it. Toby, Wanyama, Alli didn't require a huge amount of thinking or digging to find.
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That seems to be a load of hindsight bias in action when you're talking about Dele though. If everyone knew he was going to be so good there is no way he goes so cheap. So yeah, with the full benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that you do that deal every single time. That's the value of scouting because they have to make that decision before anything actually takes place.
 
Calgary Spur said:
That seems to be a load of hindsight bias in action when you're talking about Dele though. If everyone knew he was going to be so good there is no way he goes so cheap. So yeah, with the full benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that you do that deal every single time. That's the value of scouting because they have to make that decision before anything actually takes place.
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Brendan Rodgers was crying last season that Dele "wanted to sign for Liverpool" but the move magically didn't happen, for the low low price of peanuts.

Remember how Pochettino brushed that off, saying Espanyol had almost signed Messi, too?
 
So to clarify:
Toby, Jan, Wimmer, Dele, Wanyama, Son, Lamela, Trippier, Davies, Eriksen and Nkoudo, plus developing Kane, CCV, Carroll, Onomah and Winks in our current squad, and our recruitment is poor?

Edit: Just realised we got 39M for Chadli, Mason, Yedlin and Pritchard
Unreal
 
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