I am not saying he is a bad player, I am saying he is not a gifted footballer. He doesn't have the natural ability others have. That just is not his game. I am struggling to understand how this is a difficult concept for people to grasp. He is a Kuyt sort of player. Which is fine, we need that sort of thing.
Come on, let's recognise this sounds a bit....premature?
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He's 22 - are you seriously saying you are writing off his abilities based on 160mins of PL football? Wow.
I remember people doing that with Rose, Kane and Lamela.
The guy has been tracking back to our own half to perform great ball winning tackles, can hold the ball up, ha shown great awareness - but you're saying he's not gifted, despite the fact that he has the likes of Eriksen and Alli behind him, who are currently (on present form) ballooning shots into the stands instead of creating chances. Kane's passing has been statistically awful as well, so I don't know how you're expecting him to see any of the ball to show what you're judging him on.
His value to the team is immeasurable
I am not writing off his abilities. I rate him highly. This inability to understand a basic point is getting to me. I am very hungover I don't care anymore. There are different types of players in this world. Lamela is a very very gifted footballer so I am not sure why he was used as an example. Most people saw that but he was weak. Eriksen is a very gifted player but is shit at the moment. If you want to tell me Janssen has great technical ability that is fine. In my opinion he does not but he does other things very well and btw I would start him.
I just don't understand how you are judging him to be 'not gifted' or 'not very gifted'.
In the same sentence, you're saying Eriksen is 'very gifted' but not at the moment... I fail to see how you can recognise that one is and one isn't, without taking into account a longer time period to observe the other. It's a bit contradictory.
He's always done that, and Janssen does it too.
They're having to track back, imo, because the players behind them aren't carrying it forwards. Alli and Eriksen have been very poor, and it's crippling our dynamic.
Ha ha, yes, I saw Janssen do it yesterday. A totally pointless exercise because if he'd actually won the ball there was no one to pass to. We look like a pack of dogs at the moment - very little intelligence, but everyone trying to please. How come these great players we have don't look like creating a genuine chance between them? We've looked shit for seven games now. It's very frustrating.
Would be nice if Allardyce gives him the week off by not picking him, ne could really do with a rest. Unfortunately I doubt it will happen.
If Kane wants to be a top top player then he will need to adapt to the tactics asked of him which will differ from manager to manager and sometimes from one big match to another.
I have no qualms about the guy's ability or willingness to do that and if he makes the necessary and required adjustments to his play he will be all the better for it.
I have no qualms about the guy's ability or willingness to do that and if he makes the necessary and required adjustments to his play he will be all the better for it.
I agree re him being more of a product of hard work than pure talent. But in my opinion he played his best football overall for us in 14/15 when he often came deep to involve himself in the game. Because he's a "trier" I think he needs more touches on the ball to get it right, and more space around him. He doesn't get that easily when he's packed in by two CBs and a DM.
Really hoping Kane gets a goal tomorrow on England duty. He needs that initial spark to get his confidence going for the season.
Not sure about Kane but there was that one Janssen put wide
I get what you mean though, not sure if teams have worked us out or we're just not warmed up properly
bold statement to make after jusr three games , we scored loads last season.