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I don't really understand why you are so full of hate and such. For the last time, I'm not trying to bragging or be scarry or seem to be tough or anything... My words are from one football fan to another who has to endure shitty government politics for the last 30 yrs or so. They are just kinda sociological analysis. Is that so hard to get? And yes, mostly my countrymen -and many Europeans and Latin Americans and Asians- get their courage with a knife in their hands (actually, it's got some downers for attackers, cos' you might get stabbed or arrested and get life, your child might grow up without dad, or worse orphaned etc.), but that doesn't mean I'm for it. I've been in Europe many times, I showed respect, and be respected on return. That's the most basic rule to coexist in this world I think.
So, my humble wishes for safe and sound trips for rightminded spur's fans, hope you enjoy your away game...
(and hope you get what you deserve Mr. SLR and OZ cos' I don't really get what you are into)
I think
bjk1903
has been misinterpreted. Sorry for the hassles mate, i think that my fellows spurs are trying to suggest that they are not into the whole hooliganism thing and believe that its stupid. I apologise for any wrong doing, and completely understand that you are in it for more or less the right reasons. Of course they just have different thoughts and they're entitled to that. Arguing over two different views like this seems a bit over the top, maybe just ignore them if you dont like what they're saying. Best of luck to you too
bjk1903
has been misinterpreted. Sorry for the hassles mate, i think that my fellows spurs are trying to suggest that they are not into the whole hooliganism thing and believe that its stupid. I apologise for any wrong doing, and completely understand that you are in it for more or less the right reasons. Of course they just have different thoughts and they're entitled to that. Arguing over two different views like this seems a bit over the top, maybe just ignore them if you dont like what they're saying. Best of luck to you too
What a thoroughly disagreeable chap!
...aw, that's a shame, 'cos us Jews were looking for some nice tasty babies to eat... do you not have any of those spare, or have you eaten them all for yourself?
I don't really understand why you are so full of hate and such. For the last time, I'm not trying to bragging or be scarry or seem to be tough or anything... My words are from one football fan to another who has to endure shitty government politics for the last 30 yrs or so. They are just kinda sociological analysis. Is that so hard to get? And yes, mostly my countrymen -and many Europeans and Latin Americans and Asians- get their courage with a knife in their hands (actually, it's got some downers for attackers, cos' you might get stabbed or arrested and get life, your child might grow up without dad, or worse orphaned etc.), but that doesn't mean I'm for it. I've been in Europe many times, I showed respect, and be respected on return. That's the most basic rule to coexist in this world I think.
So, my humble wishes for safe and sound trips for rightminded spur's fans, hope you enjoy your away game...
(and hope you get what you deserve Mr. SLR and OZ cos' I don't really get what you are into)
U play the level headed, rational poster and then drop snide comments..
Football violence might be illegal, immoral and at times dangerous but it was always conducted within a set of normative rules and behaviours.. However out of wack they were with mainstream society.
But sorry mate, you lot crossed the line when you killed those blokes (who may I add where innocent fans) and for that Turkish ultras should never in my opinion be welcomed at any ground in England period..
6 days a week I could care less but the one day I put a jersey on, whether it be spurs or England your lot have a fucking target on...
Alright, thanks for your sincere comment.
I agree with your first half but allow me to correct a misunderstanding -or prejudice- on your part. "Us lot" must not to blame in 2000 incident, that was Galatasaray fans. Well, as they are another Istanbul team, and one of our rivals, they also murder one of our bystander fan in 90's (not to mention they murder one Fenerbahçe supporter last year). So it's a bit harsh to condemn a nation. Because when it comes to generalization, no nation is innocent and UK fans have a loooong rap sheet.
anyway, there were numerous matches between Beşiktaş and English teams up to this day, with Manu, Woolwich, Bolton, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. and also with Tottenham years ago. Did any violence occur here and there? I don't even know a small incident. So please be reasonable and get over your hatred a little bit mate, it's bad for your heart.
ps: that "normative rules and behaviours" were long time dead in Europe, and then buried in Heysel some 30 yrs ago. btw, do italians still have a vendetta going on with "you lot"?
i know there's at least 1 other group of Spurs on the same flight as us, no doubt there'll be a few others as well.Me andAlMacca_ booked up. I know a few other from here are also going.
Going to end up flying out from Luton with Gooners most likely due to them playing Gala on the Wednesday.
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Going to end up flying out from Luton with Gooners most likely due to them playing Gala on the Wednesday.
Got a 5* on the square for 80 Euros, bargain!
what's the square you're near mate? i'll see how far it is from our place
just saw manchester city roma bayen in same group dont fancy one of the dropping in the Europa League bollocks really
If they finish 3rd in their group and drop into the EL, and we qualify from our group the earliest we could meet them is last 16. Teams from the same association can't be drawn against other in the last 32.
On a personal note I have a lot of respect for Besiktas, both for the political stance and for the great support you had last time we played, and the respect shown to our fans and players that day.
Fully agree with you about those who use knives (although some in England also do and have done as well) but it's not fair to tar all Turkish ultras with the same brush. When we played Besiktas a few years ago, most of our lot were expecting the worst but their fans were very respectful. They even applauded our fans and players at the end of the game, which we won 2-0.
still blade merchants like Gala and like Fener. 2 innocent English lads were killed by Gala not the other 2 who apparently condem it (LOL), yet the others still "threaten" the English with knives whenever they're drawn against us. horrible bunch
I normally agree with what you say on here and have a lot of time for your views...I guess they might have a cuntish element (like most teams) but my experience of them is that they are not the same as Gala and Fener. I also know some of theirs through a Turkish friend in London, and they seem decent blokes. They said that at the last meeting between our teams they wanted to show they were different from the murdering scum who killed the Leeds fans.
Of course it's always worth being careful and having your wits about you when you're in Turkey, though.