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Haven’t you heard? Tuchel is also a shit manager, well according to what I’ve read around here.
I’ve said this in the Kane thread but Bayern’s PPG is the highest it has been since 2016 and the 4th highest in their history.
He’s a bit unlucky Leverkusen are having a monster season. Usually they’d be stupidly clear.
Which tells you the league is weaker than it usually is therefore they have no excuses not to be equalling Leverkusen or above them but forget all that they don't pass the eye test - they play at low intensity and are rarely convincing every time I've watched them play.
It got that much weaker in a single season?
You don’t have to like their play-style but he’s got them winning almost every game they play.
Tuchel is a bit boring/functional but they’ve dropped points in 4 games all season. Leverkusen are just waaaayyyy exceeding expectations.
How do you quantify the strength of a team based on overall points from season to season?, no season is alike.
Bayern are crap, they haven't impressed in the CL, nothing I've seen from them is convincing this season.
Probably because you have seen nothing of them this season.
I like to think a team who have dropped points in four league games all season who are on course for an incredible points tally are doing quite well but sure .. they’re crap.
They topped their group with 2 games to spare in the CL.
You keep talking about points tally like it means something
It's like saying AVB's points tally of 72 (finished 5th) means that he is a better manager and we had a better team than Redknapp's of 70/69 where we finished 4th, meaningless.
Their CL group was weak, none of the games there impressed me in, slow, methodical, low intensity nonsense, didn't look convincing at all.
Tuchel may be a decorated coach but he's taken Bayern backwards since Nagelsmann, any Bayern fan will tell you that.
Great argument that, well done
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Of course it fucking does, how else are we judging coaches? He’s winning games week in week out. Style is secondary to substance.
Nagelsmann had them in third. Might wanna talk to some different Bayern fans.
You’re basically saying the marker is whether you’re pretty/exciting to watch, which it isn’t. The marker is games won. Tuchel has them winning more games than they have since 2016, ergo he is doing well.
Surely you'd want him to continue dragging them down?
No it does not
You know how to use context right? Just because he's getting more points it doesn't mean he has bettered previous managers, your logic is crazy - you know your ball so you realise that the relative strength of leagues differs from season to season.
Nagelsmann had them 2nd, still in the domestic Cup and had a perfect record in the CL , guess who came along and ended that and for relevance look at the performances in the CL and the Cup compared to last season.
Everyone knows why he was sacked and that was due to club politics, he was basically doing better than Tuchel across the board and Tuchel has the best striker in the world to boot btw, you saying he's doing well is laughable because he's already under achieved this season.
I'm still not sure they sack him. I think he will get the league cup final, which he will probably win knowing our luck.....mind you, then they will have to stick with him.
No it does not
You know how to use context right? Just because he's getting more points it doesn't mean he has bettered previous managers, your logic is crazy - you know your ball so you realise that the relative strength of leagues differs from season to season.
Nagelsmann had them 2nd, still in the domestic Cup and had a perfect record in the CL , guess who came along and ended that and for relevance look at the performances in the CL and the Cup compared to last season.
Everyone knows why he was sacked and that was due to club politics, he was basically doing better than Tuchel across the board and Tuchel has the best striker in the world to boot btw, you saying he's doing well is laughable because he's already under achieved this season.
‘Guess who came along and ended that’ come onnnnn they played Manchester City! The eventual champions and fucking treble winners. With Tuchel having had about five minutes in the job! Nagelsmann had been struggling in the league (dortmund were NOWHERE NEAR as good as Leverkusen are this season) - especially compared to Tuchel.
He’s already under-achieved by managing a ridiculous points tally and topping their CL group … right, okay. I guess if you just ignore all reality that is the case. Their only failure has been in the domestic cup, in every other competition their record is almost perfect.
The relative strength this year in the Bundesliga = all German sides qualified through CL/EL groups apart from Union Berlin. The league is stronger this year if anything - a Dortmund side who got knocked out by Potter’s Chelsea were the competition last year, Leverkusen’s PPG and overall quality is far higher.
The record books show Tuchel came in and got battered by City, that's the long and the short of it mate.
He's under achieved by the virtue of being knocked out by a team 2 divisions below them, who gives a fuck about points tallies in CL groups or the league if you aren't winning it, topping his CL group is the bare minimum of what he should be achieving with that club, you get judged on winning stuff at Bayern mate not how many points you accumulate.
Tuchel's remit was to make Bayern better than they were last season, at this very moment in time he's taken them backwards, no matter how much you try and twist reality - he's doing a poor job.
Never works like that.
He should never have gone there.
Soiled forever regardless of what happens.
No better and probably worse than Cnunte and Moutheeenio.
His career decisions since Spurs have been fucking shocking.